feedburner
Enter your email address:

Delivered by FeedBurner

feedburner count

Plans For (Free) Microlite75 2.0 Games

Labels: , , , , , , ,

Microlite75 1.0 CoverYou are probably asking what is Microlite75 2.0? The first version of Microlite75 was published during the same period as Microlite74 2.0 and was Microlite74 plus my house rules from the 0e era (late 1970s). The "75" in the name came from 1975 -- the year I first played D&D. When it came time to do a third edition of Microlite74, my 0e era house rules were incorporated in the Expanded version of Microlite74 3.0 and Microlite75 became a all-but-forgotten artifact of the Microlite74 2.0 era.

Next you are probably wondering why I am bringing Microlite75 back? Last summer, I received an email telling me that it was time for a new fourth edition of Microlite74 because it would be five years old in 2016. I said I did not see a need for a fourth edition of Microlite74 in a blog post last August. However, I asked what others thought and received a number of replies (mailing in email or in PMs on the message board) saying that if I did a new edition, would I please use the more standard advancement and XP system I used in some of the Microlite74 variants and in Microlite81. After thinking about it, I concluded that while there probably were many people who would prefer advancement and experience handled more like in the original game, there were probably just as many or more who liked the simple Microlite20-based system used in the Microlite74 3.0. As I have no desire to alienate current players with such a major system change, I announced in an early October blog post that I would publish such a modified system, but under the Microlite75 name, keeping Microlite74 as it for those who prefer the current system.

I said I would talk more about Microlite75 2.0 after I finished Microlite81 Advanced. That finally happened last week -- see Microlite81 Advanced is Now Available for Free Download (Free Old School RPG) for download information -- so it's time to talk about my ideas for Microlite75.

The first releases will be Microlite75 Basic, Microlite75 Standard, and Microlite75 Expanded. These games will be the same as their Microlite74 namesakes but will have the more standard class descriptions and advancement system used in 0e and in Microlite81. Assuming the world (especially my wife's medical issues) does not throw me for a loop, these three products should be out in the somewhat near future. In fact, I hope to have draft versions of all three in the hands of RetroRoleplaying Cancer Fund donors by the end of December. Once these are finished, I'll move on to some "completely new" ideas like the following:

Microlite75 2.0 Basic Extended: The three classes of Microlite75 Basic with the rules from Microlite75 Expanded. The backgrounds from the expanded rules can easily be used to expand the standard three classes of fighting man, cleric, and magic-user to cover any number of things that have been classes in many editions of the world's first fantasy RPG.

Microlite75 Swords & Sorcery: The swords and sorcery variant of Microlite74 is very popular. One of the most common complaints about the game is the "E6" basis of the system where there are only six levels. Microlite75 Swords & Sorcery will try a different method of creating a S&S feel that is not quite so limited level-wise.

Microlite75 Swords & Mythos: As many readers probably know, I'm a fan of Lovecraft's Cthulhu mythos fiction. Some authors have tried combining Swords & Sorcery with the Cthulhu Mythos. I've always found these stories to be a lot of fun, so I'm going to create a game around the idea by taking swords & sorcery into a setting where most of the sorcery and many of the monsters are mythos-based. I'm looking forward to this one. Even through one of my current players actually suggested the idea, I don't think my players are looking forward to this nearly as much as I am.

Microlite75 Alternate Classes: Microlite75 with versions of the alternate classes I first suggested for Gryphons & Gramarye. I still like these classes even though they do not seem to work as well as I hoped in Gryphons & Gramarye. This version of Microlite75 with given them a home.

Microlite75 Forgotten Magic: A version of Microlite75 set in a world where powerful magic was created and used by a long extinct non-human empire. Current races, however, cannot seem to truly master magic and are left using what little they can find and actually use from the dangerous ruins of this ancient civilization.

I have other ideas (like Microlite75 in Space), but these are the ones I currently see myself working on first. Note that the titles are subject to change. Many readers are probably thanking deity for that right now. Title idea are welcome -- especially something better than "Basic Expanded".

You can sponsor Microlite75 games with a donation of $25 or more to the Retroplaying Cancer Fund. Sponsors will be listed in the Microlite75 games (at least the ones that are released after they make their sponsor donation) as well as receiving all the standard Retroplaying Cancer Fund donor benes. Sponsors can opt to remain anonymous (as about 50% of donors have in past sponsorships) is they wish to, of course. The following are the sponsorship categories:

  • Donate $25.00-$49.99 and you will be listed as a Bronze Donor
  • Donate $50.00-$74.99 and you will be listed as a Copper Donor
  • Donate $75.00-$99.99 and you will be listed as a Silver Donor
  • Donate $100.00-199.99 and you will be listed as a Gold Donor
  • Donate $200.00-299.99 and you will be listed as a Platinum Donor
  • Donate $300.00-499.99 and you will be listed as a Electrum Donor
  • Donate $500.00 or more and you will be listed as an Adamantine Donor

If you have any ideas for Microlite75 2.0 in general, for a specific Microlite75 2.0 game. or even an idea for a different Microlite75-based game, please let me know.


Imagine#1 CoverThe Winter Holidays Cancer Fund Drive (formerly called the Lazy Days of Summer fund drive) is on. Every $10 donated gives you one chance to win a one of the many early D&D, Empire of the Petal Throne, and early TSR games items items described in the above-linked post. Multiple drawings will be held as described in the above linked post. The highest donors will have a separate chance to receive an Artists of TSR portfolio or a complete set of numbered issues of Imagine Magazine. Donate $25 or more to be listed as a sponsoring donor in upcoming Microlite75 2.0 games. These are in addition to the usual PDF downloads and other benefits of a donation to the RetroRoleplaying Cancer Fund. To get help us pay our medical bills (and to get access to some special downloads and possibly the above mentioned Winter Holidays giveaway items), send a donation in any amount -- small or large -- to me via Paypal. Thank you!

As of the time of this post $1055 dollars have been donated. That's about 30% of our goal and about 40% of the way to the second $750 drawing trigger point.

Winter Holidays Cancer Fund Drive (Imagine Magazine Added to Donor Giveaways)

Labels: , , , , , ,

Imagine #12 CoverDuring the summer, I started the Lazy Days of Summer RetroRoleplaying Cancer Fund Drive and awarded the first set of Giveaway items in October. However, I have been to busy with my wife's many doctor visits (and there are two more this week and one next week for another another outpatient surgery/pain treatment) and finishing Microlite81 Complete and Advanced to post much to this blog. And if I don't post, people (including me, I'm sorry to say) forget about the donation drive. As I'm going to make this blog and starting work on the Microlite75 2.0 games a priority in December and January, I decide to rename the donation drive from the "Lazy Days of Summer" drive to the "Winter Holidays" drive -- because it's hard to think of summer when it is 50 degrees outside (or it is when your summer temperatures are in the upper 90s). It's the same drive with a new name and -- and thanks to discovering my old collection of TSR UK's Imagine magazine in a box marked "Xmas" that I probably have not opened since I lived in San Antonio -- with some additional giveaway items.

Background: We have recently had a lot of medical bills (5 MRIs, and ultrasound, and a spinal tap for my wife) with 20% co-pays -- which took all the money we had saved to pay the $3800 property tax due by the end of January -- it looks like it is a good time to have a fund drive. Fortunately, the tax bill will be lower in future years as our homeowner exemption will kick in, but that's no help here. Why so many MRIs? The first MRI was my wife's annual cancer screening MRI, done months later than it should have been because of trying to find new doctors. No signs of her cancer returning, but her doctor saw something unusual in her spine and set her to a neurologist. He looked at the MRI and said it was most likely either be radiation damage or multiple sclerosis -- and given some of her other symptoms which had been previously blamed one her bad lower back, he was leans toward MS. Sigh. So he order 4 additional MRIs (one head, one neck/upper back each with and without some type of dye) which would be able to rule out damage from hee head and neck radiation treatments. The whatever he was seeing in the spine would show up differently if it was radiation damage. Unfortunately, it wasn't radiation damage, so he wanted a spinal tap to be sure it was MS. Unfortunately, the spinal tap showed that it was MS so now my wife has to deal with MS as well as the after effects of head and neck cancer. The ultrasound? Her legs were swelling badly and her doctors wanted to check for blood clots. There were none, the swelling was caused by nerve dame in her spinal column and was treated by her pain doctor.

Imagine 22 CoverOkay, now that the background is out of the way, it's on the the goodies I have to give away to lucky donors. The following items will be given away randomly selected donors. Every $10 donated gets one chance in this giveaway:

The first two groups are items I found at a garage sale earlier this year

Group 1: These items Awarded in October.

Empire of the Petal Throne BoxGroup 2: S1 - Tomb of Horrors, S2 - White Plume Mountain, S3 - Expedition to the Barrier Peaks, S4 - The Lost Caverns of Tsojcanth.

And then some other groups of items from the 1970s and very early 1980's from the collection I got from Jay:

Group 3: All TSR Tekumel games: Empire of the Petal Throne, Legions of the Petal Throne, War of Wizards.

Group 4: Gamescience Tekumel Boxed Sets: Swords & Glory Volume 1, Swords & Glory Volume 2.

Tekumel Journal #1 CoverGroup 5: Imperium Publishing Tekumel games: The Tekumel Journal #1 and #2, Book of Ebon Bindings, MISSUM!

Group 6: Adventure Games Teklumel material: Deeds of the Ever-Glorious, Tsolyani Language, Parts 1 and 2, Armies of Tekumel, Vol 1: Tsolyanu, Armies of Tekumel, Vol 2: Yan Kor and Allies.

Group 7: Awarded in October.

Group 8: TSR early SF/F wargames: Star Probe, Star Empires, Warriors of Mars, Lankhmar, Divine Right.

Tricolor CoverIn addition to the eight giveaways available to all donors, the top 5 donors will have a separate drawing for the following very special item: The Artists of TSR portfolio. This is a fairly rare portfolio the RPGA (TSR) published in 1980 -- only about 200 copies were printed. Jay had this one -- each of the 12 prints is enclosed in its own mylar sleeve. (Unfortunately, the portfolio cover was not and has yellowed.) The portfolio has two black and white illos by each of the six artists: Jeff Easley, Larry Elmore, Jim Holloway, Harry Quinn, Jim Roslof, and Tim Truman. I'll also be awarding Shrink wrapped copies of FEZ I and a set of the 30 issues of TSR UK's Imagine magazine from the early to mid 1980s. (Note: The Imagine collection does not include the unnumbered "Special Issue" as I have never even seen it.)

Two of the eight groups (randomly selected -- groups 1 and 7 were selected) were given away when the drive reached $750 in donations, two more will be at $1500, two more will be at $2250, and the last two (and the special "top five giveaways) when we hit $3000. Additional items not mentioned here may be given away at various points during this fund drive as well.

Star Probe CoverIn addition to these giveaway items, I will be releasing "tablet-digest" versions of Microlite74 and Microlite81 games and supplements throughout this drive, current plans are for one release for every $250 in donations.

Occasional additional donated items (gift cards, Steam game keys, Judges Guild modules, etc.) may also be raffled off either during the drive or at the end of the drive. Book rate postage will be free to winning donors in the US and Canada. Others will need to pay for postage over the first pound.

As usual, anyone donates anything at all (even a dollar) to the RetroRoleplaying Cancer Fund gets access to a few special downloads (like pdfs of two 1970s D&D fanzines I edited, a special edition of Microlite74, and more) as described on the Retro-Roleplaying Cancer Fund web page as well as in progress draft downloads of my current projects).

Due to several requests I've added Gryphons & Gramarye and Microlite75 2.0 sponsorships to the benefits for RetroRoleplaying Cancer Fund donors. Donors (including those who have donated since the start of the Lazy Days of Summer RetroRoleplaying Cancer Fund Drive) will be listed as sponsors in Gryphons & Gramarie and Microlite75 2.0 games -- unless they opt to remain anonymous (as about 50% of donors have in past sponsorships) in the following categories:

  • Donate $25.00-$49.99 and you will be listed as a Bronze Donor
  • Donate $50.00-$74.99 and you will be listed as a Copper Donor
  • Donate $75.00-$99.99 and you will be listed as a Silver Donor
  • Donate $100.00-199.99 and you will be listed as a Gold Donor
  • Donate $200.00-299.99 and you will be listed as a Platinum Donor
  • Donate $300.00-499.99 and you will be listed as a Electrum Donor
  • Donate $500.00 or more and you will be listed as an Adamantine Donor
If you would like to help but cannot make a donation, please help spread the word around the blogsphere (and other places). In fact, if you make a post to your blog talking about this fundraising drive and post a link to your post in a comment to this post, we'll give you one entry in the raffle. Note: Your blog will have to have some way for us to email you if you get lucky or will will not be able to get your prize to you as I am still failing Mind Reading 101.

To get help us pay the medical bills (and to get access to some special downloads and possibly the above mentioned items), send a donation in any amount -- small or large -- to me via Paypal. Every $10 donated gets one chance in the above giveaways. My heartfelt thanks to everyone who donates. If you cannot donate but wish to help, please spread the word about my request and offer. Thanks in advance for any and all help.


Imagine#1 CoverThe Winter Holidays (formerly the Lazy Days of Summer RetroRoleplaying Cancer Fund Drive is on. Every $10 donated gives you one chance to win a one of the many early D&D, Empire of the Petal Throne, and early TSR games items items described in the above-linked post. Multiple drawings will be held as described in the above. The highest donors will have a separate chance to receive an Artists of TSR portfolio. Donate $25 or more to be listed as a sponsoring donor in upcoming Microlite75 2.0 games. These are in addition to the usual PDF downloads and other benefits of a donation to the RetroRoleplaying Cancer Fund. To get help us pay our medical bills (and to get access to some special downloads and possibly the above mentioned lazy days of summer items), send a donation in any amount -- small or large -- to me via Paypal. Thank you!

As of the time of this post $1055 dollars have been donated. That's about 30% of our goal and about 40% of the way to the second $750 drawing trigger point.

Microlite81 Advanced is Now Available for Free Download (Free Old School RPG)

Labels: , , , , , ,

Microlite81 Advanced CoverI'm happy to announce that final "silver" version of Microlite81 Advanced 1.0 is finished at last and is now available for free download. I'm sorry to say that I could not limit the page count to my goal of 192 pages (64 x 3) -- at least not and have any reasonable amount of art. However, at 206 pages, it's still not a huge game. This file size is only 14.2 megs. This is several megs less than the 128 page Microlite81 Complete, but there is not nearly as much art as in Microlite81 Complete.

In case you haven't read my blog in a long time and have no idea what I'm talking about, Microlite81 Advanced is like Microlite81 Complete -- a greatly expanded version of Microlite81 (a Microlite20-based version of B/X) designed for those who are less familiar with roleplaying games and those who simply prefer more complete information in a larger book to minimal information in a shorter book. Unlike Microlite81 Complete, Microlite81 Advanced is a mashup of B/X and 1e -- designed for the way many people actually played the game in the early 1980s using the less complex rules of B/X with the classes, spells, monsters, and treasure of the first "advanced" edition (1e). Microlite81 Advanced also allows the GM to select which version of the "core game rules" to use (the standard B/X-like rules from Microlite81 or the B/X-like rules with the author's house rules from the early 1980s added as in Microlite81 Extended) and includes a number of optional rules modules that can be used or ignored as the GM desires. Optional modules include rules for psionics, mutations, action points, sanity, advantages and disadvantages, and more.

Microlite81 Advanced is the fourth game of four planned in the Microlite81 series. The first three Microlite81 Microlite81 Extended, and Microlite81 Complete have already been released. With the release of Microlite81 Advanced, all the games planned for the Microlite81 series are now available. Due to a death in the family (and the move to the DFW area that resulted) and my wife's new medical issues (MS), completing the series has taken over a year longer than I had planned. My next project is Microlite75 2.0 and continuing work on Gryphons & Gramarye

I'd like to thank all of those who have supposed Microlite81 with money for the Microlite81 RetroRoleplaying Cancer Fund drives last year, as well as with ideas, with email messages, and with proofreading comments. As I did with Microlite81 Complete, I'd also like to thank Kevin Crawford and his artists (not to mention those who funded his kickstarters) for donating a great deal of art from several Sine Nomine games to the public domain so that those of us with no budget for art can use it.

Microlite81 Advanced is now available for free download in PDF format in the Microlite20.org download area. Here is direct download link: Click Here to Download: Microlite81-Advanced-1.0-Silver.pdf.

As usual, Microlite81 Advanced is a free game: it is free to download, free to use, free to print copies of, and the text (except for a few proper names) is open game context under the OGL. If you like the game and have some money to spare, donations to the RetroRoleplaying Cancer Fund are really appreciated. We are having a fund drive right now (see below) and everyone donating $25 or more will be listed as a donor in current projects (currently Microlite75 2.0 and Gryphons & Gramarye.) As I write this we need just about $470 in donations to trigger the second "donor goodies" drawing in our current fund drive.


Swords and Glory Volume 1 BoxThe Lazy Days of Summer RetroRoleplaying Cancer Fund Drive is on. Every $10 donated gives you one chance to win a one of the many early D&D, Empire of the Petal Throne, and early TSR games items items described in the above-linked post. Multiple drawings will be held as described in the above linked post. The highest donors will have a separate chance to receive an Artists of TSR portfolio. These are in addition to the usual PDF downloads and other benefits of a donation to the RetroRoleplaying Cancer Fund. To get help us pay our medical bills (and to get access to some special downloads and possibly the above mentioned lazy days of summer items), send a donation in any amount -- small or large -- to me via Paypal. Thank you!

As of the time of this post $1027 dollars have been donated. That's about 30% of our goal and about 37% of the way to the second $750 drawing trigger point.

Microlite81 Advanced Now in Layout. Aiming for a Thanksgiving Release

Labels: , , , ,

Microlite81 Advanced CoverThe text of Microlite81 Advanced is complete and the project is being laid out. If all goes well, I will be releasing the final "silver" version of Microlite81 Advanced next week, in time for (US) Thanksgiving. The only thing that might delay it would be more medical issues with my wife. Her MS-related balance issues caused a bad fall about a week ago. She looks like she lost a boxing match and was lucky she did not fracture her skull or break an arm.

I added a lot of new material to Microlite81 Advanced since the last draft was released to the RetroRoleplaying Cancer Fund donor download area. I am going to try to keep the final copy of about 200 pages even if that means there will be less art. The final version will be free, just like all the other games in the Microlite81 series.

Speaking of the RetroRoleplaying Cancer Fund, our current drive has stalled out. There have been no donations to speak of in about two weeks. This is probably my fault as I have been too busy working on Microlite81 Advanced and dealing with my wife's medical issues to make any posts to this blog and to Google+ to keep the drive in the public mind. We are just shy of one-third of our goal -- but we only have two months left to raise the needed money, so if you can afford to donate $10, $20, $50, or more please consider using the donation links below. Thanks! Remember, those donating $25 or more will be listed as a donor in my next major project Microlite75 -- unless they don't want to be listed, of course. Anonymous is amazing popular.


Swords and Glory Volume 1 BoxThe Lazy Days of Summer RetroRoleplaying Cancer Fund Drive is on. Every $10 donated gives you one chance to win a one of the many early D&D, Empire of the Petal Throne, and early TSR games items items described in the above-linked post. Multiple drawings will be held as described in the above linked post. The highest donors will have a separate chance to receive an Artists of TSR portfolio. These are in addition to the usual PDF downloads and other benefits of a donation to the RetroRoleplaying Cancer Fund. To get help us pay our medical bills (and to get access to some special downloads and possibly the above mentioned lazy days of summer items), send a donation in any amount -- small or large -- to me via Paypal. Thank you!

As of the time of this post $994 dollars have been donated. That's about 29% of our goal and about 32% of the way to the second $750 drawing trigger point.

Microlite81 Advanced Draft 2 Available (for Donors)

Labels: , , , ,

Microlite81 Complete 1.0 Silver CoverWhile the illo is of Microlite81 Complete, this post is really about Microlite81 Advanced. Yes, it's a bait-and-switch post! Microlite81 Advanced is still on track for release around the end of November. A second "draft" copy is now available to RetroRoleplaying Cancer Fund donors. About 20 pages have been added (including -- by special request -- and optional half-ogre class) and numerous typos and other issues have been fixed. The optional rules section has really grown. The file is password-protected and all RetroRoleplaying Cancer Fund donors have the password. Donate today to get one.


The main hold up is the promised mutation system. I'm torn between the simple one that I've used for years (see Microlite74 Companion 1) and a more complete/complex one that I've been playtesting recently. Playtester opinions are about equally between the the two, some prefer the short, simple, and open-ended original version, other prefer the detailed mutation descriptions and the "balance" provided by adjusting XP requirements for characters with mutations that the new system provides.


Swords and Glory Volume 1 BoxThe Lazy Days of Summer RetroRoleplaying Cancer Fund Drive is on. Every $10 donated gives you one chance to win a one of the many early D&D, Empire of the Petal Throne, and early TSR games items items described in the above-linked post. Multiple drawings will be held as described in the above linked post. The highest donors will have a separate chance to receive an Artists of TSR portfolio. These are in addition to the usual PDF downloads and other benefits of a donation to the RetroRoleplaying Cancer Fund. To get help us pay our medical bills (and to get access to some special downloads and possibly the above mentioned lazy days of summer items), send a donation in any amount -- small or large -- to me via Paypal. Thank you!

As of the time of this post $994 dollars have been donated. That's about 29% of our goal and about 32% of the way to the second $750 drawing trigger point.

Why I Have Little Interest in Trying the Average New RPG

Labels: ,

illo of a pile of RPG booksI'm often looked upon as some strange type of gamer as I have no interest in even trying most of the new RPGs that are published every year. This is apparently especially annoying to some RPG players as I'm willing to try just about any boardgame at least once. There are, however, major differences between trying a new RPG someone I know has bought and wants to run and trying a new boardgame someone has bought and wants to play.

With the boardgame, all I have to do is show up and play. I don't have to invest any time or money in trying the game other than the hour or three it takes to show up and play. Rules are generally easy to learn as you play and no one expects me to purchase the game and study rules before I show up. On the other hand, most of the people who want me to try new RPG X expect me to buy a copy of the rules and at least read through them before the first session. That's too much of an investment of both money and time for me, especially since I already have RPGs I really enjoy and of which I already own and know the rules. Unless I am very sure that I will both like the new game at least as much as the ones I already own and play, investing time and money on a new game has too high of an opportunity cause to be something I want to do.

I believe that one of the reasons I've never had any trouble getting people to play the RPGs I run is that from a player's perspective, playing in one of my campaigns is a lot like playing a boardgame -- you can just show up and play. I can teach a new player all the mechanics he really needs to know in 10-15 minutes while I help him create a character and then all he has to do to play in my game is pretend to be that character and tell me what his character is trying to do and I'll report what happens, asking for any die rolls that might be needed. Players have no need to buy and study rules in advance. Actually, players have no need to ever read (let alone study) the rules unless they just want to as owning and studying the rules for the games I run gives one little or no advantage over players who never learn more about the mechanics than I taught them in their first session. In my opinion, the further an RPG strays from this "keep mechanics and play simple enough to play well without knowing the rules" principle the harder task someone who want to play that RPG is likely to have when it comes to recruiting players. RPGs that expect people to "master" their rules to play seem to strongly appeal to most hard core tabletop RPG players, but they also limit the pool of possible players to those who have the time and interest to study and master those rules -- not to mention the spare cash to buy a copy of rules they may only use two or three times.

Personally I'd rather spend the cash on my wife's medical bills and rather spend the time and effort I would spend on reading a new and very different RPG actually playing RPGs as I only have a few hours a week to devote to RPGs. What this generally means is I'm going to be playing the RPGs I already know and know I enjoy instead of trying new RPGs -- but I'm still happy to try a new boardgame. I'm also often willing to try a new RPG that is just a relatively minor mechanical variation on a RPG I already know and enjoy. That's why I'm generally happy to try a RPG based strongly on the rules of TSR D&D, the rules of Classic Traveller, the rules of TSR's Marvel Superheroes, the rules of West End's Star Wars, or the rules of Chaosium's Basic Roleplaying Game. I can just sit down and play a new game based on one of these sets of rules without having to invest any time or money in them -- almost like a boardgame.


Swords and Glory Volume 1 BoxThe Lazy Days of Summer RetroRoleplaying Cancer Fund Drive is on. Every $10 donated gives you one chance to win a one of the many early D&D, Empire of the Petal Throne, and early TSR games items items described in the above-linked post. Multiple drawings will be held as described in the above linked post. The highest donors will have a separate chance to receive an Artists of TSR portfolio. These are in addition to the usual PDF downloads and other benefits of a donation to the RetroRoleplaying Cancer Fund. To get help us pay our medical bills (and to get access to some special downloads and possibly the above mentioned lazy days of summer items), send a donation in any amount -- small or large -- to me via Paypal. Thank you!

As of the time of this post $994 dollars have been donated. That's about 29% of our goal and about 32% of the way to the second $750 drawing trigger point.