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D&D Next: My Interest in 5e Takes Another Giant Decline

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There's a new Legends and Lore column out. I don't normally read this, but someone posted about this one on theRPGsite. So i went out and read it. I wish I had not as it makes it yet more clear that the longer the 5e play test goes on, the less 5e is looking like a game I would want to play. Based on their latest feedback, they are making some changes:

* People object to rogues being less powerful in combat, sio they are going to turn them back into a more combat-oriented class (like 3e and 4e). This was apparently a litmus test for having classes that are not all about equal in combat, so it looks like all 5e classes we be great in combat. Not what I want to see as I like have some classes great in combat, some classes so-so in combat, and some classes who really need to avoid combat.

* The are moving further away from Vancian magic as the base magic system. At-will spells will now be allowed to increase in power with caster level. Characters will be allowed to prepare a number of spells for each spell level they know and cast any one of those prepared spells for a spell slot of the appropriate level. Spells prepared are not forgotten when cast.

* Worst of all, they seem to be backing further away from a modular design as Mearls says they will soon begin "to break up the core rules into basic, standard, and advanced sections so you can begin to get a sense of how we look at the rules and the game's core complexity." That's not modular, at least not in my book. What I wanted (and was promised at the beginning of the 5e design process) was a simple set of core rules that I can then add rules modules of my choice to. This sounds like a basic set of rules and two sets of preselected and combined modules of more complex rules. I suppose they could do this like I do Microlite74's Basic, Standard, and Expanded rules and then have longs of optional modules on top of those, but that doesn't sound like what they intend.

The chances that I will buy a copy of 5e (let alone convert my campaigns to it and run it every week) continue to drop. What is your take on the direction 5e seems to be moving. Is it headed in a direction you like?


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6 comments:
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Callin said...
December 3, 2012 at 1:57 PM  

It looks like its moving in the direction that the majority of fans want. Sure, that is not the direction specific people will like, but the masses have spoken.

I'll surely pick it up when it comes out if only to see the final product. After that I'll decide what system my next campaign will be run with.

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faoladh said...
December 3, 2012 at 11:06 PM  

Well, they know their market better than I do. I am obviously not part of that market. I had pretty much the same objections to what was there that you had.

At this point, I've pretty much come to the conclusion that there is little that DNDNext can offer me. Like 4E, I don't plan on bothering to get this one. I have 1E, S&W, LL, Cyclopedia, and such (hopefully OD&D, if my completely unsubstantiated guess about the 40th anniversary in 2014 is correct). I don't see any need for this thing that is nothing like any of the ways that I am interested in playing.

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woĆ°bora said...
December 4, 2012 at 1:00 PM  

I definitely will NOT be buying Next... The only good thing to come out of the Wizard's closet was the OGL (and you can bet your last copper they'd yank that back if they could).

I've totally gone back to the basics and am currently playing Heroes and Other Worlds (a lighter version of the Fantasy Trip). When I do play a d20 game it always a version of Microlite74's wonderful flavors.

...peace...

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Randall said...
December 4, 2012 at 1:13 PM  

Callin: All we really know is that a majority of the fans sending feedback to WOTC want the game to go in this direction. Chances are 4e fans are over-represented because they are WOTC's current customer base and were already in contact with WOTC through their message boards.

WOTC does not seem to be taking any type of scientific sampling for everyone currently playing any form of D&D, so neither they nor we have any idea what the majority of fans actually want.

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Rach's reflections said...
December 4, 2012 at 11:41 PM  

Speaking as an (ex-)4e fan, we're not getting represented much at all, particularly in the "fluff" department. If anyone is it's the 3.5 people, likely in an attempt to reclaim fans they lost to Pathfinder. For the forseeable future, ML74 is the only D&D I need.

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Diogo Nogueira said...
December 5, 2012 at 5:17 AM  

I am very disappointed with 5e also. They promised a game that could be played like older editions, like D&D B/X, AD&D, or even the post-WotC D&Ds. But what I see is just a remix of 3.X and 4e. That is all. I will not buy this.

I just hope they continue to republish older edition books.

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